"Java - Is it the end all be all !!"

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"Java - Is it the end all be all !!"
Posted by rob on 11-04-00, 09:58 PM (EST)
I have just recently started studying Java in more depth and am getting more and more impressed all of the time. Does anyone have any comments? Will Java, Javabeans, JSP, Java Servlets become our main programming standard?
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RE: Java - Is it the end all be all..., David Anstey, 16-04-00, (1) RE: Java - Is it the end all be all..., Don Critchley, 19-06-00, (2) RE: Java - Is it the end all be all..., David Anstey, 23-06-00, (3) RE: Java - Is it the end all be all..., Rich Dunn, 03-12-00, (4)

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1. "RE: Java - Is it the end all be all !!"
Posted by David Anstey on 16-04-00, 12:23 PM (EST)
I'm like you, just starting to learn more about Java. JSP seem to be a good idea, however I personally like using scripting tools which make it easy to code web applications. I use to do a lot of CGI coding with Perl, as it was the only reasonable way to get things done at one time. Then I discovered PHP and haven't coded a stitch of Perl on a web page since... Why? PHP was developed specifically for web application programming, Perl wasn't. I regard Java in this same light.... if your a Java programmer already, you will leverage your existing expertise and develop web applications in Java quickly.... if your not a Java programmer, there is a large cost of entry in terms of learning the language.
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2. "RE: Java - Is it the end all be all !!"
Posted by Don Critchley on 19-06-00, 01:33 PM (EST)
I don't think that anyone questions the portability of java applets but I keep hearing that relative to javascript, java has still some room for improvement in terms of download time, whereas javascript can be very quickly executed once activated through the browser.
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3. "RE: Java - Is it the end all be all !!"
Posted by David Anstey on 23-06-00, 10:21 AM (EST)
Javascript isn't even a player IMHO, there are just too many ways to break Javascripts. The problem with coding Javascript isn't just in making it work with previous browsers, but rather making it work with future browsers. I got toasted one too many times in that regard..... server side anyone.....
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4. "RE: Java - Is it the end all be all !!"
Posted by Rich Dunn on 03-12-00, 03:56 PM (EST)
I work for a software company where Java is the primary language. I used to write mainly in C++, but I find for most things I prefer Java. I find Java is a lot easier to learn and is faster to develop in than C/C++. C/C++ I think is superior for certain things where performance is a premium. My company (and the company across the hall from us) are both actively looking for Java programmers and are paying good money for experienced developers ($140,000+ - CDN$), but the location is in the U.S. (Utah). I would expect starting wages for a new developer would be in the ($70,000-$90,000 CDN$ or $45,000-$60,000 USD$) range. I am from Newfoundland, but haven't found any positions there that my family and I could live on comfortably. Hopefully that will change some day.
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